Article 11001 of alt.censorship: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Path: cbnewsl!jad From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) Subject: Part XIV(corrected), PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of Kennedy Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Distribution: North America Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:54:34 GMT Message-ID: <1992Oct12.125434.10654@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Lines: 149 CORRECTED: I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) JONES HARRIS: So, my point here is this: that the decision not to look very firmly at Organized Crime starts almost from the beginning. It starts with the Dallas Police. It starts with the Bureau [the FBI]. It starts with the Warren Commission. It continues to Garrison, and I must say that even though the Blakey Committee finally did come through and say: "Yes, it looks as though there might have been involvement", considering all the time that they spent, I found that their information was awful awful thin. GARY NULL: Alright. Let's explore that in some depth now, and let's go over to Mr. Fonzi. Please hold on, Mr. Harris. Mr. Fonzi, thank you very much for being with us. Let's explore a few things. Now you were an investigator with the House Select Committee on Assassinations. Did you find that there was any attempt by either the FBI or the CIA or other leading law enforcement agencies or the attorney-general's office, after [Robert] Kennedy, to downplay or to disengage the interest of an investigation of Organized Crime in this? GAETON FONZI: Well that was not actually one of my areas of investigation. There was, on the part of all the agencies, I believe, not a total spirit of cooperation. And, of course, when it came to the CIA, that was even more so. Let me go back to something that John Davis said earlier on, as far as there being no concrete evidence of CIA involvement. There was no concrete evidence of anyone's involvement. There was no concrete evidence of Organized Crime's involvement. There was no concrete evidence of anti-Castro Cuban involvement or pro-Castro Cuban involvement. There was no concrete evidence of any type of involvement. There was, I believe, no concrete evidence of Lee Harvey Oswald's involvement in the assassination. GARY NULL: Are you suggesting that Kennedy shot himself? GAETON FONZI: What I'm suggesting is that after all these years, there has not been an adequate investigation. There was not an adequate investigation on the part of the Warren Commission, and there wasn't one on the part of the House Select Committee on Assassinations. GARY NULL: But why? There had to have been a reason. GAETON FONZI: Well, certainly from my own experience with the House Select Committee, I know the reason was strictly political. When Bob Blakey, the second chief counsel after the original chief counsel Richard Sprague was fired for wanting to conduct a murder investigation, a unique approach to the Kennedy Assassination, the new chief cousel Bob Blakey came in and told his staff this at the first meeting: "We have two priorities. Our first priority is to get a report done in time. Our second priority is to get a report done within our financial restrictions." And with those priorities we set out to do exactly that, limiting, of course, many many areas of investigation. Let me just go on for a minute in terms of some of the specifics that both John Davis and Jones Harris were talking about. I agree that Organized Crime probably had a part in the assassination because of Ruby's links to Organized Crime. But I think, in trying to determine any kind of strategic planning here, you've got to account for Oswald and Oswald's movements. You've got to account for Oswald's control. And when Senator Richard Schweiker, who headed the Senate Select Subcommittee on the [John] Kennedy Assassination under the [Senator Frank] Church Select Committee on Intelligence ..... when he first got into investigating the Kennedy Assassination, his immediate conclusion, after digging into it, was that "Oswald had", as Schweiker put it, "the fingerprints of Intelligence all over his activities." So I think that, unless you crank in the control of Oswald, any theory about the Kennedy Assassination just isn't complete. GARY NULL: Alright. Can you take us into an understanding of Alpha 66 and Antonio Visiana? GAETON FONZI: Yes, because that goes into .... when you talk about means and motivation, I think you can find the means and motivation, not only on the part of Organized Crime, but on the part of the anti-Castro Cubans or on the part of the intelligence agencies, and in almost any direction you look. But what I feel is the strongest is the overall picture of the intelligence agencies' connections to the anti-Castro Cubans, and their motivation. And that goes back to the period following the Bay of Pigs. Kennedy was given a lot of blame for the failure of the Bay of Pigs [Invasion], but it wasn't his fault. The Bay of Pigs was planned -- including the air strikes -- by the [Central Intelligence] Agency before Kennedy became president. And he was not even told about the air strikes. Subsequently, as a result of that failure, Kennedy was very angry, both at Castro and at the Intelligence Agency. And he sent his brother Bobby to actually begin taking over the Agency, and set up a secret war against Castro that was based out of this Florida area here. And over the course of the years this became the largest CIA operation outside of Langley [Virginia, CIA Headquarters]. It was called the Jam Wave Station and it conducted a very very effective operation against Castro almost on a daily and nightly basis. These training camps, or these guerilla camps, were set up by the Agency. They were controlled by Agency personnel using anti-Castro Cubans as the operatives. And their spirit and motivation became blended with the anti-Castro Cubans' goals. Come the Cuban Missile Crisis when Kennedy realized that, as a result of this very effective war against Castro, Castro permitted the Russian missiles to be brought into Cuba. Kennedy realized that he had brought the world to the brink of a nuclear disaster. So he made arrangements with [Soviet Premier] Kruschev to stop the secret war and to close down these guerilla bases in return for the withdrawal of the missiles. When he did that, the guerilla bases continued operating against -- in defiance -- of the President's orders. As a result of that, Kennedy was forced to use other agencies -- the Navy, the Coast Guard and other military agencies -- to close down these camps. And in the process, he arrested some of these anti-Castro Cubans whom the Government had been supporting. This was reason enough for the anti-Castro Cubans and their Intelligence [Agency] partners to consider Kennedy a traitor. And as a matter of fact, during the height of delicate negotiations with Kruschev, it was Alpha 66, one of the most militant anti-Castro groups, that tried to sink Russian ships in Havana Harbor, again defying Kennedy's orders. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please assist in disseminating it by posting it to other bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty-year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo