Article 15678 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Path: cbnewsl!jad From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) Subject: Part III, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Distribution: North America Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:54:18 GMT Message-ID: <1992Sep9.155418.16387@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Lines: 157 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) GARY NULL: Now, just today -- just less than an hour ago -- the American Medical Association gave it's official position on the Kennedy assassination, and a Doctor George Lundberg, the editor of the Journal of the American Medical Association and Editor-in-Chief of Scientific Publications of JAMA, read their position paper, and I'll just quote something from it. Later in the show we're going to come back to this, because we have a part of the press conference recorded by WBAI. It says: "The recent Crenshaw book" (and we had Dr. Crenshaw on the show) "is a sad fabrication based upon unsubstantiated allegations. The best explanation for the motivations of myriad conspiracy theorists are paranoia, the desire for personal recognition, public visibility and profit. Anyhow, it says that this is all nonsense. There was no conspiracy; that the Warren Commission was right. And THAT was the press conference. We'll get more on the press conference, but I just want you to know that finally JAMA (and I don't know why JAMA would be sticking it's nose into something that it knows nothing about, to begin with) came out and felt the need to hold a press conference to say that the Warren Commission was right. Everyone (they say) in the field writing books, doing broadcasts, or offering information to the public, must be doing it for profit, recognition or some other [personal] motive. JIM MARRS: I've got news for them. Talk to anybody who has known me and they'll tell you that I've been making the same criticisms since the early `70s, and I certainly never made any money. In fact, people .... GARY NULL: Jim, let me ask you something. Have you ever been found guilty, in an extended trial, of restraint of trade, monopolistic practices, and, if so, was that conviction upheld all the way clear up to all the different appeals courts, and now the conviction is final? JIM MARRS: Not me. GARY NULL: Well that has happened to the American Medical Association. So, when the AMA has the audacity to come onto a press conference -- with the muddled background that they have for having been caught engaging in the restraint of trade and in monopolistic practices -- claiming that others have ulterior motives, I think it's absolutely absurd. JIM MARRS: Anybody who knows anything knows that the AMA is a FIRM supporter of the status quo, and that it has been highly political for years. And I would ascribe political motives to almost anything that they do. The point that I want to make here is -- if my understanding is correct -- if they are simply quoting from the two autopsy doctors who worked on President Kennedy, well then, this is just an affirmation [of that autopsy]. Of course, those doctors are going to say the same things they said in 1963 and 1964, and it's going to support the Warren Commission's contention. But this is a diversion. This is a red herring. This is not the issue. The issue is that what the autopsy doctors saw was not the same as what the doctors saw [at Parkland Hospital] in Dallas. And there is a very DEEP discrepancy between the wounds as viewed in Dallas .... I just quoted you all these people who said that there was a large hole in the back of his head. This was not seen at the autopsy -- or not reported. So we've got some real discrepancies here, and this particular little news conference and their pronouncements are simply skirting the issue. GARY NULL: Okay, Jim, I want you to hold on because we're going to introduce some new evidence and a new individual to our conference here. He is Harrison Edward Livingstone, the author of HIGH TREASON II. Welcome to our program, Mr. Livingstone. HARRISON LIVINGSTONE: Thanks for inviting me. GARY NULL: I would like to go straight to some of the most important issues, and if you would, please give us the research that you have uncovered on these. First, I would like to have you review, from your perspective, the eyewitness descriptions of Kennedy's real wounds. HARRISON LIVINGSTONE: Well, as you know, I've been able to interview almost every living medical witness. I did not talk to Doctor Clark, although he gave me certain answers through his secretary, twelve years ago. I have talked to Doctor Humes, but I can't say that anything was productive there, even after as much as an hour of talk. But, other than that, my book presents the most complete history of what these doctors are saying today, and put in perspective of what they said and wrote in 1963. No other book or writer or researcher has achiveved this. GARY NULL: We're not here to promote your book, as such. We're here for you to please share your information with us. So if you could, please go right to the information. Would you talk about the evidence of forgery and retouching of the autopsy photographs and X-rays? HARRISON LIVINGSTONE: [initial words were drowned out by Gary Null's voice] .... doctors and the two autopsies. And the point being that they are trying to head off at the pass the research that I have just published, and for no other reason; also [they're targeting] Doctor Crenshaw's book and his statements. They made a number of totally false statements at this press conference. For instance, that Crenshaw (they quoted other doctors, and this is an example of how they cooked their article by the American Medical Association) .... that Crenshaw was not present at the autopsy -- when if you go and read in Volume Six of the Warren Commission books, he is mentioned by almost every doctor as having been there. And he was certainly in a position to observe the wounds and to see what was going on. And it doesn't take anybody more than an idiot to know that a bullet is either an entry hole through the skin of the neck, or it's an exit, because, if it's coming out, it's going to make quite a tear. And anybody, basically, would see the difference. I was pretty stunned, as you probably know, because I was at this press conference today. You ask: Why is JAMA [the Journal of the American Medical Association] doing this at this time, and I'm just telling you there is only one reason why they're doing it. It's because the whole cover-up perpetrated by the Government in this case is directly threatened by the research that I have done and by my making it possible for Crenshaw and the other doctors to come forward. GARY NULL: Alright. Would you give us some link between Richard Nixon's men and John Kennedy's killers that ties the assassination directly to Watergate? And could you please give us the facts? (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please assist in disseminating it by posting it to other networks, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the necessity of citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo